Conversations on Conservation

“Breaking the Ice – Impacts of Road Salt”

 

Hosted by

 

Westchester County Parks Department

 

Westchester County Center

 

January 27, 2006

 

Transcript by Jane Pearl, Member

Town of Bedford Conservation Advisory Board

 

 

 

 

Angelo Spillo – Director of Pace University Environmental Center

 

This is the fifth of our morning cafes and it was put together by a number of people. We have an ongoing committee made up of people from Westchester  Parks and Planning, Friends of Westchester County Parks, The FCWC, The Nature Conservancy and Teatown Lake Reservation. 

 

When we first discussed the topic of salt, it was early in the season and I said to myself, I don’t think this is going to go over very well because every one has already purchased their salt and it’s late in the season and we probably won’t get a big turnout. I was wrong because I guess we hit on a timely and interesting topic. I would like to introduce our next speaker. He is the Commissioner of Public Works for White Plains and also the city engineer.  He over sees a number of public works bureaus for the city and implements energy saving projects within the city.

 

Joseph (Bud) Nicoletti (Commissioner of Public Works of White Plains and City Engineer)

 

I am here to present the issues. It’s hard to think about the summer’s clear roads in the middle of a snow storm. If you are a public works official to think as if it were summer time. If you see snow coming down, you throw salt on, more salt on, throw liquid de-icer on, throw everything we have on it. But then, all of that material is causing other problems and that’s the other side of this coin. When the sun finally comes out in the summertime, then you see dead fish or plant life that have been compromised for the necessities of de-icing. At the time it seems like the thing to do.

There is a lot more pressure that roads stay open than ever before.

Snow chains - They slow down the car because you can’t drive that fast, but they don’t have the same stopping ability as you have on dry roads, but it’s the best way to stop on snow or ice.

 

All season tires – While the vehicle goes well, it doesn’t stop any better. The rubber on winter tires is either hard or soft, it is able to bond to the ice on the road and is a lot more flexible. That having been said, people just drive faster. SUV’s are not any safer in snow than any other car although people drive them as if they were. There should be increased pressure on the public to drive slower. Every municipality is under pressure to produce bare pavement immediately after a snow storm. This is environmentally difficult.  Short term driving safety compromises the long term safety of the environment.  Trucks are capable of spreading more tons of salt per hour, but should that be done? Probably not, but it is done because of public demand.

 

Road temperature sensors are a very important tool because the air temperature doesn’t give you the whole story. You can more carefully control the amount of de-icers that are used and the amount of plows that you have to put out.

 

The mental mindset of the driver is a real problem – he cannot get the idea that it is winter and snowing and gets annoyed if someone gets in front of him. He drives too fast and usually ends up off the side of the road.

 

Trucks will rust out because of salt and you have to get rid of them before there are any mechanical problems.

 

Another problem is law suits. You get sued if there’s not enough salt and the roads aren’t “properly taken care of” and you get sued if you are polluting.

 

James J. Dean (Superintendent of Highways for the Town of Orangetown, NY)

 

There are 50,000 people town wide and about 35,000 people that our highway department gives direct service to. We have 143 miles of town roads and we do all the state roads except for the PIP on a contract basis. We also do about 16 miles of county roads. We have 23 plow routes, each one averages about 8 miles/truck.

 

We used to use cinders which were very granular. There were a couple of factories that burned coal in Orangetown that gave the town the cinders. After the factories stopped using coal, we went to sand. We found that we had to put salt in it to keep the sand from freezing. That’s how we got into using chemical de-icers. We ran out of natural sand and now we are using manufactured sand which is the fine particles from crushed stone.

 

We found that when we plowed we created hard pack which was very difficult to get rid of.  It takes about 6 times as much salt to get through the top down to loosen it up so you can clear it off. When you get a thaw, this stuff is going into catch basins, streams and lakes. Sand is not the solution. We use a de-icer on top of the pavement so the snow won’t bond with the pavement.

 

In the early ‘70’s, New York State did a comparison of the cost of using sand and using salt. It showed that it was much more expensive to use sand just to give moderate traction. It didn’t melt the snow and it didn’t make the roads safer. You have to put the sand down three or four times more than you would just using salt. In the mid ‘80’s we found we were doing better by applying salt directly to the road and stopping the bond than we were doing by using sand. We ended up using much less sand and had much less cleanup. Sand also creates particulates and dust and you end up with air quality problems.

 

There was a presentation in Kingston on December 6th (2005) in which one presenter did a study for the EPA to identify where the sodium that is in the water comes from. They found that 30% could come from water softeners. Fertilization can cause a lot of salt.

 

We all have to be cognizant of using the right amount of salt at the right time in the right place. We believe salt is the best thing we have available right now – it’s the cheapest, it does the job and it doesn’t have to have serious environmental impact if we do it properly.

 

Anti icing is something we have gotten involved in in Orangetown and I think it’s one of the tools that’s going to help us do much better in

reducing the amount of salt we use. It’s the process of putting an ice melting agent on the pavement before it snows. It has to be in liquid form. Loose salt on pavement doesn’t work and if you have much traffic and wind, it gets blown off and ends up in the streams.

 

The products that were being used for a long time were magnesium chloride and calcium chloride. We use that in liquid form to enhance the granular salt because it makes it work at lower temperatures, and puts it into solution quicker. We tried using it for anti-icing; putting it on the pavement before storms, but there are issues with that because there are certain temperatures near the freezing mark which can cause it to create slippery conditions.

 

In other areas of the U.S. a lot of salt brine for anti-icing is being used. The idea was to have calcium chloride encapsulated in the pavement and as the moisture would get down into pores, it would bring up the salt and break the bond. The special mix costs $120/ ton versus salt which costs $30/ton and the mix was hard to use. We ended up making the brine ourselves for anti-icing. You have to use it at the right time and use it realistically. Pavement temperatures are more critical with the other products. Salt brine gives us a much wider range in which to use it. We can use it 3-5 hours before a storm (during which time it evaporates) and when a storm comes, it works.

 

We have pavement temperature sensors on all our trucks (they cost about $500/unit). We know what all the conditions around town are and we can act appropriately. The salt brine gives us the ability to do this which we didn’t have before. We have two brine trucks and within 3-4 hours we can go out and do all of our main roads. We use about 50

gals./lane mile. We can also put it exactly where we want it. We can change nozzles and make it into a strip. The ideal way to put salt down is in a much smaller strip so it begins to work faster and not to spread it all over the road. It doesn’t go past the rear wheels.  It doesn’t shoot it out to the curb.  That’s wasted material that’s not doing any good. A lot of people are going to center line spreading (4 feet wide). It can be done

while you’re plowing. If you plow off the snow you are always going to leave ¾ to ½ inch of snow no matter how good your plow blades are. If you hit that with a light application, you can clean that off and it continues to stop the bond. If you leave it and you get heavy traffic on it, and it compacts, you get the bond forming again and you have to use more material to break the bond. Light applications frequently help to reduce the overall amount.

 

Post storm – after the storm is over, you send the trucks back out because there are hard pack spots.  You can hit the spots with liquid and take it away before you have to hit it with granular material. It takes about 150-200 lbs. per lane mile. There is a concern with the salt brine. We are putting it down at 23% solution and you have to control that. More is not better as it can start to go to re-freezing and the same thing happens if the solution is less than that.

 

We have two brine tanks.  Our bucket loader is a 2 yd. capacity. It dumps the material in the tank, it mixes through and takes less than an hour and we mix 5,000 gallons in the first batch, transfer it to the second tank and we have 10,000 gallons available. One man does this. This is completely automated. We are paying $41.24/ton for the salt and it takes about 115 pounds of salt to create 50 gallons of brine. It costs us about 6 cents per gallon to make it (which includes electricity). It does not include the capital costs, or the unit which cost about $55,000 to put in place.  All in all it’s been very cost effective for us. The other liquid that we were using cost $30/lane mile for de-icing, but the brine now costs us about 99 cents per gallon. We use about 7-8 gallons per ton for pre-wetting. We now supplement the salt brine for that and down to 20 degrees, it works fine. There will be a point where it gets below 20

 

 

 

degrees and then we’ll go back to using magnesium chloride for lower temperatures. We use between 4,000 and 4,800 tons of salt per year.

 

 Storage has always been an issue. We all have sheds and DEC keeps a close watch on that. We have gotten awards for our sheds from the Salt Institute. They actually come around and check on what you’re doing and making sure you are keeping up to standard. It’s a good thing for every community to be part of. There is always spillage from loading or unloading the shed, so what Clarkstown has done is to have a 20,000 gallon underground tank for liquid. In the winter time, there is a sewer system for the overflow, so it can go directly into the system. There are private storage bins in shopping malls, campuses, etc. and they have to comply with local wetlands regulations.

 

Cornell Local Roads has a program that they put out. It’s a full day course. We just sent our crew to it. It covers the whole process of salt and ice control.  It can be an 8 hour course or a 4 hour refresher to deal with our storm water Phase 11 requirements. The Cornell group will come to a town and show them how they should be doing things. The snow fighter’s hand book can be down loaded from their web site or have Cornell send it to you. The DEC has their maintenance manuals that they put out. They talk about application and storage and how to do it right. Cornell also has a special handbook on salt storage for local officials.

 

Representative from International Salt Institute

 

The company was started in 1997. After a big salt mine in New York state was flooded out, the company went to Chile to supplement its supply.

 

They brought salt in by vessels because Chile offered them dry rock salt which is what is needed. You don’t want a solar salt product which is wet and contains 10% water. We have been the supplier of choice because of price. This is a world market for ships and two years ago when we set our contract for Westchester County in the summer, sometime in November China needed iron ore and they bid up the price for ships. There are three salt veins in the United States. One goes from the top of NYS to Erie, Pa., then comes back up through Ohio. Another vein is down near Louisiana and the third salt vein is in Salt Lake City. One is close to the Rochester/Ithaca area.

 

It’s not in our best interest to see you overuse salt because that’s what causes the bad reputation for salt from environmental issues. Actually, I’m in the de-icing industry and we need to stay on top and learn from you people who use it.

 

Corrosion – There has been a significant improvement in automobiles resisting salt corrosion. There has been a big impact on trucks, however. Treated salts such as magnesium chloride acetate inhibit corrosion, but are very expensive. We sell different products that reduce corrosion on bridges and high rise parking facilities. We bring in over 4 million tons of rock salt/year and distribute it. However, there are a lot of municipalities that ask for pre treated salt.                                                                  

 

The Garden State Parkway had concerns about their toll booths breaking up and concrete catch basins have been breaking up faster than they used to. Calcium chloride is better than sodium chloride, but not that much. Westchester County’s yearly contract is for 100,000 tons for their county roads. 

Salt color – NYS wanted to show that they are putting salt down and also, salt has been stolen out of their storage bins. In order to track it, they wanted a dye to be put into the salt. The salt from Chile that is supplied to Westchester county and NYC is inherently pink.

 

The name of the game is cost and you want the cheapest transportation you can get.. However, the cheapest source of salt comes from off shore and that is Chile. The ship that will carry 60,000 tons from one point to another is cheaper than a rail car which would move salt 200 miles.

Environmental damage – spreading excessive amounts where road drainage is misdirected, nor is road salt the only culprit affecting the environment of road side vegetation. There is also compacted soil, injury to root systems during road construction, changes in soil and moisture levels due to paving and toxic effects of vehicle emissions. Because of its exposed nature, the roadside environment often robs plants of moisture. One state agency reported that gaseous fumes account for the most wide spread injury to plant life.

Proper storage – The Salt Institute will come in and check on salt storage facilities.

Salt vs. Sand – The cleanup is very expensive for sand.

Salt vs. Other Chlorides – Calcium and magnesium chlorides are effective ice melters, but their cost is significantly higher. Sometimes 8-10 times higher. It’s also hydroscopic which makes it difficult to work with. It can be effective in liquid form for pre-wetting. In the case of urea and potash, potash is very environmentally friendly (it’s a fertilizer), but potassium chloride is not an effective ice melter.  Calcium magnesium acetate (CMA) is a good ice melter, but the cost is prohibitive ($1000/ton). There is a pre-mix which Massachusetts uses. We supply a bulk form of 20% calcium chloride mixed with the salt.

Pre-wetting –(On the Salt Institute Website)

 

William Wegner (Riverkeeper Watershed Analyst)

 

Monitors sprawl in the 2000 sq. mile watershed area that serves NYC’s drinking water supply. Oversees the city’s development of sound water quality monitoring models, develops standards for tributary health, reviews EIS’s, participates in town and county individual projects and provides technical support for anti-sprawl groups.

 

Figures from National Research Council state that Massachusetts, New Hampshire and New York have the highest annual loadings with Massachusetts being highest with almost 20 tons per lane mile/year. In the NYC watershed, there are 6,000 miles of paved roadways. Application on 2-lane town, county and state roads is about 37 tons of salt per lane mile/year. The Taconic gets about 75 tons per lane mile/year. I-84, which goes through 2 sub basins in the Croton watershed receives 298 tons per lane mile/year (from a 2000 study by the U.S.G.S.).

 

There are guidelines for salt application and the introduction of chlorides and sodium into surface waters is regulated, but the actual application of road salt is not specifically regulated.

Environmental Impacts – There was a Canadian study that reported damage to roadside vegetation that was 200 meters away from the actual salt application site. There are direct and indirect impacts to wildlife because when the vegetation is damaged, habitat is destroyed – food sources, habitat corridors, migration, shelter, breeding and nesting sites. There are direct effects when wildlife ingests road salt. The larger animals lick the salt off the roadways and collide with vehicles, also some of them have salt deficits and when they eat too much salt, they get a toxic, behavioral reaction. They become less alert to the vehicles and as a result don’t get out of the road quickly. The same thing happens with birds. Some of them mistake salt crystals for grit and as little as 1 1/2 particles can kill them.

Aquatic biota – fresh water fish and crustaceans and insect larvae that are in water have a tolerance to salt levels. Snow melt creates shock loads to aquatic systems during snow melt.

Human health – primary problems of road salt in drinking water is aesthetic – an adverse taste effect. Up to 30% of the U.S. population could have borderline hypertension and the ingestion of sodium aggravates hypertension. While it’s not a big problem now, it could become one in the future.

Expense – Infrastructure impacts, automobile corrosion, corrosive impacts on concrete reinforcing rods are all  costly. Snowbelt states spend between $250-650 million/year on bridge repairs and parking garages. The northeast pays between $75-175 million/year for repair and maintenance of infrastructure.

 

Alternatives -  There are chemical and management practice alternatives.      Calcium magnesium acetate (CMA), while mainly environmentally friendly, can cause temporary oxygen depletion. It’ s harmless to plants, non-corrosive to metals, non-destructive to concrete. It does require more application (l ½ :1 ratio) for it to be effective. It’s very costly. Road salt is approximately $50/ton, while CMA is $800-$1,000/ton. It can be used in environmentally sensitive areas such as along a reservoir.  Unless the cost comes down, there are going to be budgetary constraints for the municipalities.

KA (potassium acetate) is very similar to CMA in that it is relatively environmentally benign. It is also very expensive ($700-800/ton) in 1991.

Trying to keep the maximum daily loads of phosphorous into the reservoirs low, the DEC has established the maximum daily phosphorus loads.

Sensors – Some municipalities are using sensors. They reduce salt application because it is not done until the temperature is approaching freezing at the pavement. In a pilot study in Vermont they returned 850% on their investment of sensors because of the reduction of road salt usage. They reduced salt usage 28% on average and saved over $2 million/year.

 

Leila Goldmark (Riverkeeper Watershed Attorney)

 

Leila investigates and prosecutes clean water act violations, fights sprawl in the NYC watershed and conducts Riverkeeper’s wetland protection campaign.                       

 

The best way to reduce road salt usage is educating the public. Last year there were some recent studies in July which highlighted the potential problems we are all facing. The study covered three watershed areas one of which was the Mohawk watershed in the Hudson River valley and they compared data from the last 20-40 years. They found chloride

concentrations up to 25% the concentration of sea water and up to 100 times greater than un-impacted forest streams during summers.

 

The U.S. uses about 18 million metric tons of rock salt/year in the northeast and mid-western states alone. Six states, including NYS use 75% of this total. Salt goes from the road and accumulates in the soil and moves relatively slowly. We are now getting to a saturation point where it is moving further and being pushed into our groundwater supplies and coming out in the surface waters.

We are doing policy initiatives and working on finding solutions to potential contaminants that are not regulated.

 

How serious is the NYC watershed problem now? There has been salt contamination in private wells, among other problems.

We are surveying towns to find out what they are doing. Conditions vary from valley to valley and we want to know what’s working with those of you here.

Some areas have reduced applications of salt for environmental reasons.  Pound Ridge has re-classified the roads in pre-sets based on location and usage and in the past three years they have had a 30% salt reduction.

We are trying to do some pilot studies with communities that may not be using some of these alternatives and see if we can document before and after change. It’s hard to sell the alternatives unless you can back them up with numbers.

 

If you put cost, safety and environmental benefits, it seems you could pick any two, but not all three. It would be nice to get to the point where all three would be able to be accomplished.